Re: [blogite] pingback: when to pingback ?

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From: Ian Hickson (
Date: Wed Sep 18 2002 - 09:37:25 BST

On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, michel v wrote:
> My apologies if such a question has already been asked, but what could
> constitute pingback spam ?
> When should a weblog pingback another weblog ? Entry creation is a given
> but what about entry editing, people commenting and linking to yet
> another weblog in their comment (which in some situations is almost
> equal to talking about the 'yet another weblog' in the entry body, for
> example in a MeFi / Kuro5hin thread), or (and here comes an interesting
> possibility for spamming) editing the entry to remove the link to the
> fore-pingback'd weblog ?

Well... personally I think that you should never edit a post to the extent
of removing content (and the protocol has no way of removing pingbacks
anyway). But the other cases seem reasonable.

I would consider pingback spam be any of the following:

   a pingback from a page which doesn't include the appropriate link

   a pingback which has already been sent (a duplicate)

   a pingback from an automatically generated page (i.e. one with no
   further comments)

> Could the latter case be avoided by a 'reverse pingback' that would tell
> 'hello, I removed the link to your blog, please remove me from the list
> of blogs that pingback'd your entry' ?

Why would anyone ever _remove_ a link? That seems very dubious to me. What
if other people were linking to that post because of the link?

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