Re: Interesting page headers (Was: [blogite] Before we update the spec...)

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From: Ian Hickson (
Date: Tue Sep 10 2002 - 20:35:30 BST

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Aquarion wrote:
> >
> > I still see pingback as being, on the client side, just a blogging tool,
> > but I don't see why, on the server side, I shouldn't be able to catch
> > links to pages other than my blog entries.
> Because everything you get with a pingback - that someone has followed a
> link from $reference to $page - is already (and automatically) filed
> away in your server log without there being any other protocal involved.

In practice, this isn't so. Referrer logs are noisy, they don't point to
permalinks, and they contain lots of links from search engines and
aggregation services like

> The /only/ benefit pingback has over scanning log files is the permalink
> that it gives back to the refering article (that is, When I link from
> index.php, the pingback tells you the link comes index.php?id=404,
> because that's the place you'll /always/ be able to get it)

That's a non-trivial advantage.

> which can be used to create a list of "further reading" links. Doing
> this for anthing other than x/html isn't as useful, because part of
> the point of the system is you have a list of links of people who
> talked about this.

It would be useful using Simon's idea of getting the links out of the
system by XML-RPC -- a client side "related links" system which instead of
using a centralised server like Alexia depends on the site itself.

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